B. My personal conviction on giving to the Navs. (Cont'n)

17 I do not give to the Navs because (multiple answer allowed) OR Im giving now but if I stop giving NOW to the Navs the possible reason would be;
a I feel that the Nav work now is less relevant. 0 0.0%
b I do not see where Navs is heading (no direction). 2 11.1%
c I do not see a good conversion rate between money spend and soul being reached-out and labourers established. 0 0.0%
d I have doctrinal problem with the Navs. 3 16.7%
e I don't like the way Navs handle financial system. 3 16.7%
f The Navs is not transparent with its finances. 3 16.7%
g I feel that what the Navs wants is only my money. 0 0.0%
h I think the Navs receives funding from outside. 2 11.1%
i I feel I am not connected to any of the Navwork. 4 22.2%
j I don't like the lifestyle of the staffs 3 16.7%
k I’m not informed of the need of the staffs 4 22.2%
l I feel that the staff (Nav Representative) do not relate to me in personal level. 0 0.0%
m I feel that the staff should do tent making (work). 2 11.1%
n Some staffs let me feel like I am a second class Christian because of my decision in the past. 2 11.1%
o I only give to the one that minister to me and Navs is no longer ministering to me. 4 22.2%
p Its a hassles/difficult to send my support 2 11.1%
q I don't get receipts for my tax deductions. 1 5.6%
r I have priorities outside of the Navs. 8 44.4%
s My income is just enough for my/our needs. 1 5.6%
t I am helping my family/relatives. 3 16.7%
u I don't have income 2 11.1%
v I want to give but I do not know how to send my gift. 1 5.6%
w I'm a bit shy because I can only give a small amount. 1 5.6%
x I’m not led to give to anyone at all. 1 5.6%
y I have more thoughts, I want to explain. (Use the voice out box) 5 27.8%
Votes so far 18 100.0%
18 I give to the Navs because (multiple aswers allowed)
a I felt led by God 18 75.0%
b of my gratitude of the organization 12 50.0%
c I do not have any other ministry involvement 1 4.2%
d I believe in what the Navs is doing. 15 62.5%
e of my relationship with the staff 10 41.7%
f of the life’s example of the staff 4 16.7%
g someone in the Navs ministers to me 4 16.7%
h I consider Navs as my family 14 58.3%
i I am a Navigator. 16 66.7%
j I have more thoughts, I want to explain. (Use the voice out box) 2 8.3%
Votes so far 24 100.0%
19 My Present giving or my plan of giving to the Navs is (multiple answers allowed)
a on regular basis (monthly, bi-monthly, quarterly etc) 15 65.2%
b when someone would ask me 3 13.0%
c when I see the need 13 56.5%
d I prefer to give to the staff who are in the ministry area where I came from 6 26.1%
e I prefer to give to the staffs that have personal relationship with me 12 52.2%
f I prefer to give to project or program 6 26.1%
g I prefer to give to the general fund 1 4.3%
h Actually. I have no plan of giving to the Navs/Staff until my problems with the Navs is resolved 0 0.0%
i. I have more thoughts, I want to explain. (Use the voice out box) 2 8.7%
Votes so far 23 100.0%
20 As a donor or someone who is considering to give to the Navs , how I wish (multiple answer allowed)
a I would really feel the partnership between me and the staff I am supporting, in the personal level, where I can also share personally from my side and be prayed for. 11 45.8%
b That my partnership with the staff/Navs is unconditional even if sometimes I fail to give or stop my giving for whatever reason. Meaning I would still receive news and communication same as when I was still giving. 17 70.8%
c. The Navs/Staff will be conscious of the ratio between the amount spent vs. the soul saved and the labourers produced. 6 25.0%
d. I will be kept informed of what is happening in area where my support goes. 15 62.5%
c I will hear the minds of the leadership, NLT specially. 11 45.8%
d that there would be a department who would maintain, update, and answer questions and help the donors to facilitate giving and receipting 8 33.3%
e the Navs will be transparent on its finances to the donors 11 45.8%
h That donors will also be consulted or be given freedom to express our opinion on certain issue of the Navs. I wish that there would be a kind of “suggestion box” where we are free to idenfy ourselves or remain anonymous. 8 33.3%
i the Navs would let me know the needs 7 29.2%
k that the staff would be an example of simple lifestyle 8 33.3%
l that giving will also be taught and practiced even among the students 11 45.8%
m that all Navs will give portion of their giving to the Navs 7 29.2%
n I have more thoughts, I want to explain. (Use the voice out box) 3 12.5%
Votes so far 24 100.0%

SOME COMMENTS ON THE SURVEY

You can read it from the bottom up.

Friday, April 3, 2009

The Acts 2 Model

First, I would like to take the chance to send my greetings to Oxy, especially kon ulay man pud diay ka as you are so candid:) Seems like you'll be with us forever kay si Rene ni submit na man:)
Abi nimo R.G. naa na jud koy gisulat few weeks ago when I woke up one day, clear kaayo akong mind and I rushed to type them in pero wa nako ma send and at the end of the day I accidentally close it without saving. I just couldn't retrieve the thoughts and could not replay the moment. what a waste!
awat ko ani ni oxy..below are my worthless thoughts on the finance issue at this point..
Bahin sa pangutana ni Oxy kon asa ang mga staff in the survey preparation. .maybe somebody else has to answer her kay wa gani ko kabalo nga kini si R.G.. dili man diay staff:).
However, as to the objective of the survey.. I mentioned having a survey or something to base our future/immediate engagement to this issue. That was because of R.G.'s comment not only once in this egroup but the last time noted was on the 27th of February he wrote..
".. I think we from Cebu navs, God has raised many committed workers, working full-time in the ministry and willing to risk to mission fields both locally and overseas, but we are also not very good in terms of giving... "
I took the first part of the phrase as a compliment/strength worthy of praises to the Lord. The second part is somehow expected as a weakness that needs to be addressed through the survey. Based on the result, the last 2 questions are critical.. it shows that givers appreciate the sincerity of the partnership as not only when the person is actively supporting financially but as prayer partners first. The giving plan is generally based on the need seen and the personal relationship. I hope the survey will give the staffs and leadership some ideas in what really matters to donors and how the donors appropriate their giving.
I am aware that this will not be easy because the Navs has its own structure and ways of running the ministry. However, if we and the leadership are open to the alumni's or outsiders' (not a staff) ideas of running our local affairs i.e. cebunavs then we in this egroup could step in and take care of our own concerns as a group.
As Edd suggested, we can set up a Local Investment Fund to support needy staffs and other emergency concerns. And I agree that it should have to be managed well and have transparency in how it is being appropriated. . Based on what I learned from this exchange.. I could say, it doesn't make sense and not morally right to see a staff hardly surviving. How could we let this go on??
On the other hand, it is not enough to ask people to give or criticize them for not giving or for giving reasons not to give. I believe this is a group of generous people. In fact, we need to celebrate that cebunavs is on target of what the ministry is all about.. raising committed laborers for His harvest!!
The Acts 2 model of believers working together is worth emulating. Each one of us in this egroup is an asset to the ministry with unique set of gifts. Some may not have cash but have time. Some may not have the luxury of time but have a special talent or have a great network connection. Anyway, there's a lot of potentials this egroup is sitting on and we could utilize them. Each one's contribution to the Kingdom is valuable in God's economy. We just need creativity and teamwork to turn this into a tangible outcome.
My out of the box idea is to have a paid staff to relieve the burden of fund raising. At least a base/living allowance! This in turn will encourage new graduates to continue serving the ministry while waiting or looking for a job considering they don't have the experience to raise funds. But, there should be a different criteria for the paid from the unpaid.
Another avenue is to expand the carenderia investment that was started already or some sort of business venture that everybody could take part.
uyy, taas na man..
Blessings to all of you,
Ruby

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