B. My personal conviction on giving to the Navs. (Cont'n)

17 I do not give to the Navs because (multiple answer allowed) OR Im giving now but if I stop giving NOW to the Navs the possible reason would be;
a I feel that the Nav work now is less relevant. 0 0.0%
b I do not see where Navs is heading (no direction). 2 11.1%
c I do not see a good conversion rate between money spend and soul being reached-out and labourers established. 0 0.0%
d I have doctrinal problem with the Navs. 3 16.7%
e I don't like the way Navs handle financial system. 3 16.7%
f The Navs is not transparent with its finances. 3 16.7%
g I feel that what the Navs wants is only my money. 0 0.0%
h I think the Navs receives funding from outside. 2 11.1%
i I feel I am not connected to any of the Navwork. 4 22.2%
j I don't like the lifestyle of the staffs 3 16.7%
k I’m not informed of the need of the staffs 4 22.2%
l I feel that the staff (Nav Representative) do not relate to me in personal level. 0 0.0%
m I feel that the staff should do tent making (work). 2 11.1%
n Some staffs let me feel like I am a second class Christian because of my decision in the past. 2 11.1%
o I only give to the one that minister to me and Navs is no longer ministering to me. 4 22.2%
p Its a hassles/difficult to send my support 2 11.1%
q I don't get receipts for my tax deductions. 1 5.6%
r I have priorities outside of the Navs. 8 44.4%
s My income is just enough for my/our needs. 1 5.6%
t I am helping my family/relatives. 3 16.7%
u I don't have income 2 11.1%
v I want to give but I do not know how to send my gift. 1 5.6%
w I'm a bit shy because I can only give a small amount. 1 5.6%
x I’m not led to give to anyone at all. 1 5.6%
y I have more thoughts, I want to explain. (Use the voice out box) 5 27.8%
Votes so far 18 100.0%
18 I give to the Navs because (multiple aswers allowed)
a I felt led by God 18 75.0%
b of my gratitude of the organization 12 50.0%
c I do not have any other ministry involvement 1 4.2%
d I believe in what the Navs is doing. 15 62.5%
e of my relationship with the staff 10 41.7%
f of the life’s example of the staff 4 16.7%
g someone in the Navs ministers to me 4 16.7%
h I consider Navs as my family 14 58.3%
i I am a Navigator. 16 66.7%
j I have more thoughts, I want to explain. (Use the voice out box) 2 8.3%
Votes so far 24 100.0%
19 My Present giving or my plan of giving to the Navs is (multiple answers allowed)
a on regular basis (monthly, bi-monthly, quarterly etc) 15 65.2%
b when someone would ask me 3 13.0%
c when I see the need 13 56.5%
d I prefer to give to the staff who are in the ministry area where I came from 6 26.1%
e I prefer to give to the staffs that have personal relationship with me 12 52.2%
f I prefer to give to project or program 6 26.1%
g I prefer to give to the general fund 1 4.3%
h Actually. I have no plan of giving to the Navs/Staff until my problems with the Navs is resolved 0 0.0%
i. I have more thoughts, I want to explain. (Use the voice out box) 2 8.7%
Votes so far 23 100.0%
20 As a donor or someone who is considering to give to the Navs , how I wish (multiple answer allowed)
a I would really feel the partnership between me and the staff I am supporting, in the personal level, where I can also share personally from my side and be prayed for. 11 45.8%
b That my partnership with the staff/Navs is unconditional even if sometimes I fail to give or stop my giving for whatever reason. Meaning I would still receive news and communication same as when I was still giving. 17 70.8%
c. The Navs/Staff will be conscious of the ratio between the amount spent vs. the soul saved and the labourers produced. 6 25.0%
d. I will be kept informed of what is happening in area where my support goes. 15 62.5%
c I will hear the minds of the leadership, NLT specially. 11 45.8%
d that there would be a department who would maintain, update, and answer questions and help the donors to facilitate giving and receipting 8 33.3%
e the Navs will be transparent on its finances to the donors 11 45.8%
h That donors will also be consulted or be given freedom to express our opinion on certain issue of the Navs. I wish that there would be a kind of “suggestion box” where we are free to idenfy ourselves or remain anonymous. 8 33.3%
i the Navs would let me know the needs 7 29.2%
k that the staff would be an example of simple lifestyle 8 33.3%
l that giving will also be taught and practiced even among the students 11 45.8%
m that all Navs will give portion of their giving to the Navs 7 29.2%
n I have more thoughts, I want to explain. (Use the voice out box) 3 12.5%
Votes so far 24 100.0%

SOME COMMENTS ON THE SURVEY

You can read it from the bottom up.

Friday, April 3, 2009

Where is the Statistics Here?

My dear sisters and brothers,
It was not my intention to get a single ray of limelight. Lest I'll be hit with
lightning and vanish in thin air.
Since the survey results are out to which I participated in obedience to RG's
call, I would like to manja with our boys like Venric or Rene if they would like
to put some explanation on the significance of the results.
Mga kuya, before you say something, can I make some senseless thoughts in a form
of questions please?
First, there are less than 200 members in this group and only about 20 something
participated. From the statistical point of view, does the outcome make sense? Do they
represent the whole group? In my little brain-nut as Mely puts it, if this were a project
or a thesis, I would challenge the results and make questions on the process by which the
survey was made. I'm sorry RG but why was the survey in a hurry? Some of our family
members who only open their mail twice a month will not have a chance to voice out I guess.
From a simple illustration, I cannot be represented by my hand nor my feet on this results.
Of course, you would say that I was a good representation. Of those who participated
or the whole group?
Honestly mga Kuyas, I have difficulty appreciating surveys in the christian context because
a.) When Abraham negotiated for Lot when God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrha,
did God used statistic? I think God looks at individual and not trends and medians.
Or maybe yes, because everyone was evil God destroyed them.
b.) When Jesus used the parable of the lost sheep, did he not said " Will he not leave
the 99 and loook for the lost sheep, and when He finds it, he will rejoice in it"?
Where is statistics here?
c.) There are about 2 members of the group who are consistently inclined to be negative
on their responses, shall the Nav leadership brush them off because its not what the majority feels?
Of course not!, they would try to reach out to everyone.
d.) Had the christian organization not so distant past stopped sending missionaries to
Solomon Islands and Papua New Guinea because they were eaten alive and that in more
than 5 years no one had been converted to christianity, would we hear a single soul being
saved today in those countries? Where is statistics?
e.) If RG will not find Amir in their search for 3 or 4 years and that their family friends will
not embrace Jesus, shall we remove our support to their endeavours because based on statistics
they have not done their jobs?
f.) I think some in the ulay division will really appreciate your comments.
I still have other thoughts but I think we all have enough in our plates.
Take your time Kuya. And thank you for giving me life in here. I might stay a little longer.
On a ligheter side, I think some ideas are brewing when Ruby shared somethin like
paid...staff, ...fund raising... and Edd also mentioned about funds,... management.. .
needy staff... Could anyone make a good business case on this? This should be a good
outcome of the survey.
Thanks Ruby and Mely. Its nice to be welcomed. And Lani, impressions does not
hold in statistics either he he he he. Sungit ano?
Daghan salamat,
Oxy

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